MUSKEGON BOARD OF CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSIONERS
Regular Meeting Minutes
Thursday, April 17, 2014
5:00 p.m. City Hall, Room 203
I. CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order by Commissioner David George Newsome at
Also present was Commissioner David Wendtland, Commissioner Pamela
Lynk and Deborah Groeneveld, Human Resources Director.
Also present were City Manager Frank Peterson and Mary Mansfield.
Motion was made by David George Newsome and seconded by David-
Wendtland to approve the regular minutes of the November 14, 2013
III. ACTION AGENDA
A. Review of Civil Services Rules. Debbie showed the group what the rules used
to look like, and stated that in the new rules, no changes have been made.
She said that it is just set up to be more user friendly and easier to look at.
Debbie stated that she would have City Manager Frank Peterson send the
document out to the employees for their review and comments. John Shire
told Debbie that any language changes can be completed at the Civil Service
Commission meetings. Debbie added that the City Commission could amend
the rules to make the changes, such as with the rule of three, and take it to a
vote. David Wendtland stated that he likes the idea of putting the document
out there for employees to review and comment on.
Debbie also stated that she met with the City Managers, and she said that
their main concern is the number of applicants. She added that the City
Commission can amend that rule. David George stated that if it’s listed in the
charter, this process would be okay, but Frank confirmed that it is in the
charter, and would have to go to the vote of the people. David George stated
that he has been saying for years that chapter 15 needs to be amended.
Debbie stated that because of the way scoring is completed should be
changed and limit the scoring. David George added that it is an oral
interview and that if certain folks are wanted, individuals should be setting
the panel and be there for those interviews. He also added that he wants the
City to prosper and move forwarded, and that in order for this to happen,
amendments need to be made.
Frank stated that in order to put it on an upcoming election, there would be
no extra expense. He also said that it would have to go in for the November
election because there isn’t enough time to get it in for the August election.
Motion was made by David Wendtland and seconded by David George
Newsome to the rules and regulations, dated June 1, 1987, as
submitted, be approved by the commission and be submitted to the
employees of the City.
Motion was made by David George Newsome and seconded by Pamela
Lynk to have the Civil Services Commission direct the Civil Services
Personnel Director to begin the process of providing an amendment to
Chapter 15 of the City Charter to eliminate the rule of one and the rule
Debbie stated that the agreement between Muskegon County and the City of
Muskegon expires on June 30th, and she asked Frank if he is comfortable
doing it for another year. He said he wasn’t uncomfortable, and Debbie
added that the price would remain the same.
Motion was made by David George Newsome and seconded by David
Wendtland that the Civil Service Commission asks the City Commission
to enter into another agreement for an extension of a year for the
contract between the County and the City for personnel services.
IV. OLD BUSINESS
It was decided amongst the commissioners to move the meetings back to
4:00 p.m. on the second Thursday of the month. The next meeting will take
place in the Muskegon County Human Resources office at Terrace Plaza.
IX. OTHER BUSINESS
The meeting adjourned at 5:48 p.m.
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